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Does any one have a mistral 16'

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I am just wondering if any one else has the same boat as me. Just want to see what brakes most on these boats and stuff like that compare notes about the boat. i know it's a rare boat but let me know if you have a mistral 16' weather it's the model with the cabin or without the cabin.  

If you wouldn't mind, please post a pic or two of your boat. My boat is extremely rare too, a Sundance 23.  

i will soon my current computer doens't have the pics of it.  

these are pics of my boat  

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I have a Mistral 16 but the cabin version , similar but you guessed it with a cabin .. I bought it a couple of weeks ago and have not sailed it yet , cant wait !!! That being said my father has had everything from a sandpiper to hughes 48' and when he told me to just on a mistral because of epic reliability extremely forgiving and a boat load of fun , I went for it! I have not been to see my father to have him help me with rigging the sails , I have a main , jib and spinnaker(with a rod) and have no idea even on how to attach the boom , I raised the mast ( couldnt resist ) and attempted it but no luck, not enough experience in rigging .  

@ Simon: I have the same Mistral16, cabrio version. I bought it without manual, but learned about rigging by looking for instructions for Wayfarer. There is a webpage with 20 or so photographs explaining in detail how to rig it, and in which order. I have URL on the other computer, let me know if you cannot find it, I can post it here (I hope). @ smallboatlover From the pics you put on looks as if your boat has spinnaker tunnel, right? Mine has just two round access panels in the bow, for access to the mast pivot pin and perhaps some limited storage.  

On a second thought, why wait for a reply. Here's illustrated rigging guide for Wayfarer, it is identical for Mistral 16 or CL-16. Caution Water - Sailing - Wayfarer Rigging Guide Cheers all  

Yes my boat does have a spinnaker shoot on the starbord bow and on the port side is a rectangle storage area all the way from foward of cockpit to bow lot od extra storage an i think the way i have it rigged workes good  

Not being overly experienced with rigging variations, I am curious where your rigging differs from the one I put link to previously. I do mine pretty much as shown there, I believe manual shows something very similar, takes me about 30min to get her up and ready to launch from the road trailer (includes sails hoisting). Certainly would not mind to do it faster and maybe easier.  

i'm not sure i i i can describe it good enough but theres two side stays and a foward on i hook the side ones up first then put the mast throught the pin then raise it and attach the foward stay i'm not sure how else to describe it it takes me about 5 mins to put the mast up 15 to put it in the water ready to sail any other questions ask ill try to describe better if you need  

That was a good description. I hoist the mast the same way, and it looks to me to be the only way. Otherwise you need at least one other person to hold the mast upright. What takes me the most time is to unpack everything from the trailer and car just to start rigging - and same goes for taking the rig down. Hopefully with some more practice it will move much faster.  

I'm going to look at at Mistral 16 on Tuesdauy morning 6/5. Looks like a decent boat, They are supposed to be modeled after the Wayfarer which I have always wanted. My only problem is this boat would only fill my desire for a day sailer not an overnighter. A Wayfarer is better at both tasks than the Mistral. But I want a boat and this one is for sale and close by, a Wayfarer would be more difficult to find (at leat I could be sailing and racing this summer) Here is a link to the craigslist add. http://nh.craigslist.org/boa/3039017552.html Can anyone who is familiar with these boats tell me anything I should be looking out for or offer any advise. As far as replacement parts and sails does the wayfarer and cl-15 parts and pieces fit onto this boat? I used to have a Newport 21 (which was also a rare boat) I loved it but it was a little to big to take in and out of the water all the time, I need something smaller and lighter then that was. Thanks for any info anyone can provide.  

Yes look for loose fittings on my boat none of the fittings had backing plates my jib fairlead poped out while sailing last year. Also there really nice boat more of a racing boat then cruiseing kind. they like to heel a lot when sailing. no to good in heavy winds unless you have more then just 1 person. im always single handed so heavy weather sailing for me is dificult.  

Thanks, thats good to know, I'll take a good look for loose fittings. Was that an easy fix or have you not yet fixed the problem. Seems likke it would be dificult to get backing plates onto the back of the fittings with no access into the hull. Here is a link you might be interested in. Its from the Canadian Wayfarer Association. http://www.wayfarer-canada.org/wayfarer_racing.pdf loads of info on Wayfarers which are almost the same boat.  

Yes they were a easy fix and i couldnt put backing plates in but i could put insertes inthat grab more like backinf plate but these inserts you screw in and they flare out then yiu screw your staines screwes into them  

Thanks for all of the info; I'm now a part of the proud Mistral 16 owners club. I think we should try to start an association or at least a face book page for Mistral 16 owners. There are at least 4 of us on Sailnet. So the boat didn't look as good in person as it did in the pictures (they never do though) Over all it wasn't bad, she will need some work to be sailable like reattaching the spreaders, some new lines, and a better inspection of all of the fittings/ heard wear. 16 ft Sail Boat & Trailer There are some hairline cracks in the decking Im not sure how to fix these but I don't think it's too bad) the haul is in good shape though, seemed solid throughout and the gel coat seemed in good condition. The main sail and jib are really the best part of the boat being almost new, some minor stains but the fabric is still crisp and new feeling, no tears or frays. The owner was asking $1200, I offered $500 and we settled on $800 after some negotiation. I'll have the boat home on Sunday to give a more thorough cleaning looking over.  

Can anyone tell me or take a picture of what is under the mast on Mistral 16s. I have a pin that goes through the mast about a foot and a half from th bottom of the mast. then the mast pivots up and all the weight is on that pin. It seems like there should be something underneath the mast for it to sit on. Am I missing something or is this really how they work  

@ dklein90 There is nothing below the mast - lower end actually hangs in the air. But do not worry, pivot pin can take both the rigging weight and tension in the stays. When you open round hatches on either side of the mast slot you can feel with your hand how walls are thickened around the pin holes - at least 1/2" of fiberglass there if not more. Also be careful with the cotter pins and washers that keep pivot pin in place - if you drop them it might be quite a job to collect them from the hollow hull. As for the mast, you should have some kind of removable soft sleeve that you put around the part that sits in the slot - it prevents mast from sliding sideways and prevents it from causing fretting damage to the mast slot. Worst comes to worst, a rug can do it - once you raise the mast you'll understand what am I referring to. Happy sailing! Bo  

Hi, I am an owner of a Mistral 16 daysailor. We have had the boat in our family for several years. With the kids being very young, it was put aside in storage. Since the kids are now older, I have decided to put it back in the water this summer for every one to enjoy. Unfortunately I am unable to find the spreaders for the shrouds. After a few phone calls, no one seems to be able to help me. My only option seems to get them fabricated from a local weld shop, however I do not have any specs. Can any of you help me out? Thanks Matt  

Hi Matt: I'd advise you to look at Sailboats Online , spreader for CL16 (twin to Mistral 16) is around 30CAD, bracket similarly priced - if you need one. If not sure, you can phone Chris Larocque and ask for photos of the parts to be mailed, but I would guess that those parts would be a pretty good fit for mistral. I bought lightweight motor bracket for my Mistral from them, and it was an excellent service - not to mention that their bracket is the best fit for a small boat that I was able to find. Happy sailing! Bo  

Hi there, We bought a used Mistral 16 in May (2012) with the spi that had been barely used. We had some updates to do on it. We replaced all the halyards, removed the furling mechanism of the furling jib (otherwise the jib could not be tightened), replaced the jib sheet cleats by bigger ones, secured all the screws that were loose, fixed a punture hole, replaced the plug. We got the original manufacturer's brochure on another forum and realized that the cleat on the mast (starboard) and the corresponding cleat on the mast (port) are for the Cunningham. It now sails very well. In fact last week end, my girl friend used the trapeze by a stable 15 N. The boat did great but...unfortunately, we ended capsizing and we lost the rudder. Do you, or anybody you might know, happen to have a Mistral 16 rudder for sale ? Daniel  

you should have had the ring in that stops it from coming up. I have no idea  

Sorry to hear about your rudder. But how did it get loose? Tiller should keep it from coming off the pins, and tiller itself is held in place by a line that comes from the rudder and keeps the blade down tight - entire assembly is kind of secured in place. As for replacement, I have no idea about used ones. New one from CL is 190 (head) + 240 (blade) + 100 (tiller) which is quite a bit of money. Good luck with your search! Bo  

Thanks Bo. Well this boat must be 30 y old at least so there were modifications by previous owners. Also, the St Lawrence River level is low and where we are, in Lake St Louis, many people have broken the centerboard well or the rudder. So I kept the line holding the rudder down rather loose (so if the rudder hit something, it would lift, not break). The crucial thing that was supposed to hold the whole thing in place is a metal clip. It was bent upwards instead of downwards when I inserted the rudder pintle into the gudgeon. THus the clip did not do its job because of that (holding the rudder in place) when the boat capsized. Anyway, thanks for the info; we will look for a CL. Too bad for that delay, trapeze was great. Daniel  

So I guess you went out on Saturday, as it was quite windy. I went out on Sunday afternoon - was far less windy, and, since I mostly sail alone, makes it a bit easier to balance. As for the rudder downline, I tend to tighten it, despite shallows around. I have hit rocks few times, but always with centerboard - so far, at least. But you gave me the idea to replace the lines with bungy cords, just for that reason. Cheers, Bo  

WE went out on saturday on lake St Louis, at Venture (very close and east to Pointe Claire yacht club). 15 to 17 kn. It was fantastic. 4 hours of impeccable sailing with my girsl friend on trapeze. Then she steered... Bungy cords: yes we tried that: very difficult to have the right tension. Too much, then there is no reason to put one. Not enough tension, then the rudder lifts with speed. Daniel  

There is a very inexpensive jam cleat designed just for the job of holding down the rudder. The cleat is on a lever and when the rudder gets bumped it releases. I installed a new jam cleat on my tiller but now that I've heard these stories I'm going to replace it with one that releases. APS - Clamcleats - Auto Release Is there something that is supposed to hold the rudder onto the boat when upside down? My rudder just sits on the pintails and seems like it could eaisly come off. I've never liked the way it is set up. My old boat I had to keep a hammer in my truck just for getting the rudder off of the boat. I think I would try to make a new one myself before buying one at several hundred dollars. A sheet of marine grade plywood, west systems epoxy, a jig saw,and some sanding would probably turn out a decent product. The you only need a bracket and tiller. Best of luck to daniel12345.  

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CL 16 is a 16 ′ 0 ″ / 4.9 m monohull sailboat designed by Ian Proctor/Graham Dodd / George Blanchard and built by C&L Boatworks starting in 1967.

Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
• LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
• LOA: Length overall in feet
• Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

Based on the Ian Proctor designed WAYFARER. CL = Croce & Lighthouse.

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Hello, New to this site. Looking for owners manual/instructions/diagrams on how to rig my new (old) CL 14. It looks easy but would like to have some instructions as I have only sailed a Force 5 so rigging and set up is a bit different. Your assistance is much appreciated.  

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Welcome to SBO... Have you tried an online search. A google search showed hundreds of images of the boat. There is a web site. http://sailbug.com/index.php?id_product=12&controller=product No parts for sail but you can check the parts list to affirm you have all the parts. There is a phone number to call and ask for a manual. The general principal of halyards and sheets from your Force 5 experience should cross over to this new boat. Now you have 2 sails not one. the principles are similar.  

Thanks. Sounds like I was making it more complex than it really is!.  

Looks like I am missing the main cleat/pulley that attaches to the Barney post  

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Ahoy, fellow sailors! If you're the proud owner of a CL16 sailboat, you already know the joys of cruising gracefully across the water, powered only by the wind. To ensure that your sailing experiences remain smooth and enjoyable, it's essential to properly maintain your CL16 sailboat. In this blog post, we'll explore five key maintenance tips that will help you keep your vessel in top condition for optimal performance.

Understanding the CL16 Sailboat

Before diving into maintenance tips, let's take a moment to appreciate the CL16 sailboat itself. Designed by Canadian naval architect Robb White in the 1960s, the CL16 is a versatile and popular sailing dinghy known for its stability, simplicity, and ease of handling. With a length of 16 feet and a sail area of 127 square feet, the CL16 is ideal for both beginners and seasoned sailors looking for a fun and responsive vessel.

Maintenance Tip 1: Regular Inspections

Regular inspections are the cornerstone of good sailboat maintenance. By conducting thorough inspections before and after each sailing trip, you can catch any issues early and prevent them from escalating into more significant problems. Here are some key areas to focus on during inspections:

• Hull : Check for cracks, dents, or any signs of damage on the hull.
• Rigging : Inspect the rigging, including shrouds, stays, and halyards, for wear and tear.
• Sails : Look for tears, fraying, or UV damage on the sails.
• Hardware : Check all hardware, such as blocks, cleats, and fittings, for tightness and corrosion.

Maintenance Tip 2: Cleaning and Protection

Proper cleaning and protection are essential for preserving the longevity of your CL16 sailboat. Saltwater, dirt, and UV rays can all take a toll on your vessel over time. Here's how you can keep your sailboat clean and protected:

• Rinsing : After each sailing trip, rinse your sailboat with fresh water to remove salt and dirt.
• Cleaning : Use a mild soap and water solution to clean the hull, deck, and sails.
• Waxing : Apply a protective wax to the hull and deck to shield them from UV damage.
• Covering : Store your sailboat under a cover when not in use to protect it from the elements.

Maintenance Tip 3: Sail Care

The sails are the heart of any sailboat, including the CL16. Proper care and maintenance of your sails will not only prolong their lifespan but also ensure optimal performance on the water. Here are some tips for caring for your sails:

• Proper Storage : Fold or roll your sails neatly when not in use to prevent creases and damage.
• UV Protection : Avoid leaving your sails exposed to direct sunlight for extended periods.
• Repairs : Promptly repair any tears, holes, or loose stitching on your sails to prevent further damage.
• Tuning : Periodically tune your sails to ensure they are set correctly for optimal performance in different wind conditions.

Maintenance Tip 4: Hardware Maintenance

The hardware on your CL16 sailboat plays a crucial role in its functionality and safety. Regular maintenance of hardware components will help prevent accidents and ensure smooth sailing experiences. Here's how you can maintain the hardware on your sailboat:

• Lubrication : Apply marine-grade lubricant to moving parts, such as blocks and winches, to prevent corrosion and ensure smooth operation.
• Tightening : Check and tighten all hardware components regularly to prevent loosening during sailing.
• Replacement : Replace any worn or damaged hardware, such as blocks or cleats, to avoid safety hazards.

Maintenance Tip 5: Seasonal Maintenance

Seasonal maintenance is essential for keeping your CL16 sailboat in top condition throughout the year. Before and after each sailing season, take the time to perform a more thorough inspection and maintenance routine. Here's what you should include in your seasonal maintenance checklist:

• Hull Inspection : Check the hull for any signs of osmosis, blisters, or delamination.
• Rigging Check : Inspect the rigging for any signs of corrosion, wear, or fatigue.
• Bottom Paint : If applicable, apply or touch up bottom paint to protect the hull from fouling.
• Sail Evaluation : Assess the condition of your sails and consider any necessary repairs or replacements.

By following these maintenance tips and staying proactive in caring for your CL16 sailboat, you can ensure that it remains in optimal condition for many sailing adventures to come. Remember, a well-maintained sailboat is not only safer but also more enjoyable to sail. Fair winds and following seas, fellow sailors!