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Reflex 38 Any Opinions please

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  • Start date 30 Nov 2009
  • 30 Nov 2009

savageseadog

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Anyone know anything about the Reflex 38 racing yacht please?  

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savageseadog said: Anyone know anything about the Reflex 38 racing yacht please? Click to expand...

Judders

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I've raced against them and chatted with people who have raced on them. Quick on most points of sail but struggle to live up to their handicap in a decent chop. I am told that accomodation is apparently not very good with not enough berths for the number of crew required to race the thing and those are not in the right areas for weight distribution for the off watch crew either.  

Reflex 38 I meant is built by Harley Race Boats and designer: Christian Stimson I was after the following: 1) Sailing quality in various wind conditions and directions? 2) Handicap on IRC ok or not? 3) Build quality, durability? 4) Comparisons with Prima 38? Anything else?  

savageseadog said: Reflex 38 I meant is built by Harley Race Boats and designer: Christian Stimson I was after the following: 1) Sailing quality in various wind conditions and directions? 2) Handicap on IRC ok or not? 3) Build quality, durability? 4) Comparisons with Prima 38? Anything else? Click to expand...

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savageseadog said: 1) Sailing quality in various wind conditions and directions? Click to expand...
savageseadog said: 2) Handicap on IRC ok or not? Click to expand...
savageseadog said: 3) Build quality, durability? Click to expand...
savageseadog said: 4) Comparisons with Prima 38? Click to expand...
Judders said: I am told that accomodation is apparently not very good with not enough berths for the number of crew required to race the thing and those are not in the right areas for weight distribution for the off watch crew either. Click to expand...

islandsailor

I own a Pronavia 38 - the cruising version of the Reflex 38, speak to www.sailinglogic.co.uk - RORC Yacht of the year this year and RORC school boat of the year for the last 5 years I believe. I cruise in my Pronavia 38 and its also raced, very fast cruising and it brings home the results on the race course - no complaints.  

tomframe said: I own a Pronavia 38 - the cruising version of the Reflex 38, speak to www.sailinglogic.co.uk - RORC Yacht of the year this year and RORC school boat of the year for the last 5 years I believe. I cruise in my Pronavia 38 and its also raced, very fast cruising and it brings home the results on the race course - no complaints. Click to expand...

sailed the prototype pronovia about 3yrs ago - didn't perform well against the reflex - heavier v poor quality fit out inside (looked v nice though), hatches leaked, tack on No 1 pulled out etc etc. we were disappointed - hope the production boats got better. again - repeating advice above - go and talk to the folks at sailing logic  

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  • Boat REF#  ·  64074
  • Length  ·  11.58m
  • Year  ·  1999
  • Construction  ·  GRP
  • Underwater profile  ·  Fin
  • Sleeping berths  ·  10
  • Engine  ·  1 x diesel 39hp, Yanmar 3JH 2E (1999)
  • Lying  ·  Isle Of Wight

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Designer Christian Stimpson
Builder Harley Race Boats
Lying Isle Of Wight
Fuel capacity 120.0 ltr (26.4 USG) Total - 1 Tanks
Water capacity 150.0 ltr (33.0 USG) Total - 1 Tanks
Last survey 01/08/2007
Engine 1 x diesel 39hp
Engine make and model Yanmar 3JH 2E (1999)
Engine Hours Not Recorded
Engine Cooled Direct
Steering wheel
Drive saildrive
Prop(s) Folding Prop
Fuel consumption (approx) 3.0 ltr (0.7 USG) /hour At Cruising Speed
Cruising speed (approx) 6 knots
Max speed (approx) 8 knots

A new saildrive leg was fitted in 2008. Yanmar 3JH 2E – fully serviced Yanmar saildrive and folding propeller 2 x 105ah batteries (new 2007) 1 x 70ah battery (new 2007) 120 litre Diesel tank

Length 11.58m
LWL 11.52m
Beam 3.90m
Draft Min 2.30m
Draft Max 2.30m
Displacement 6,500kg (14,332.5lbs)
Headroom 1.82m
Storage On marina

Sloop rigged Z Spars Aluminium spars (1999) with Stainless Steel standing rigging (1999)

Reefing mainsail North - Slab (2007)
Headsail - Other (2007)
Other sails Mainsail (2005)
Mainsail (1999)
Headsail No 1 (2007)
Headsail No 1 (2005)
Headsail No 3 (1999)
Headsail No 4 (1999)
Spinnaker gear

Included in the sale are a barely used 1999 Stormsail & Trysail. Three Spinnaker's 1 x 2007 and 2 x 1999 A new Boom has recently been fitted

Electrical Systems

12 volt battery, 3 batteries charged by: engine, shore power

Construction

Construction GRP
Underwater profile Fin
Finish Gelcoat finish

This boat is MCA Cat 2 approved for 10 people. Hull was stripped of all paint in 2007, and treated with International VC Tar 2, and International Race Anti-fouling with Teflon. All skin fittings were also replaced. The Rudder was completely re built with new bearings etc in 2008.

Accommodation

Total # of berths 10
No. of double berths 1
No. of single berths 8
Cabin(s) 1
Sink 1
Heads 1 heads (Manual)

The accomodation on this boat consists of a double berth in the forward cabin along with appropriate storage. There are 4 x single berths in the convertable saloon along with 4 x single cot berths aft. The Interior has just undergone refurbishment

2 burner propane Stove

Stove
Broiler
Oven
Sink
Non-Smokers
Sail cover
Rode
Fenders
Boathook

2 halyard winches 2 sheet winches 2 anchors (CQR) 10.00m of chain 40.00m of rode All the stantions have been replaced as well as the Stemhead being re strengthened. Lewmar adjustable Genoa car system Spectra Spinnaker sheets and guys Spectra Outhaul Spectra Kicker Spectra Main and Genoa Halyards (new 2007) 2 Self-tailing halyard winches, two-speed 2 Genoa winches, three-speed 2 Self-tailing Main Sheet winches, two-speed

Nav Equipment

Compass
Speed
Wind
VHF
GPS
Clock
Barometer
Navigation lights
Depth sounder

Raymarine ST60: Depth Speed Multi Wind Wind CH 20/20 Mast Repeaters x 2 Graphic display (new 2005) Autopilot (new 2005) Computer manager (2005) Masthead windex (new 2007) Garmin GPS 128 Simrad VHF

Safety Equipment

Fume detector
Life buoys
Searchlight
Danbuoy
Horn
Swim ladder
Emergency steering

3 bilge pumps (2 manual / 1 electric)

RORC Offshore flare kit – March 2005 2 x Horseshoes and lights (new 2007) RORC Danbuoy (new 2007) First Aid Kit (new 2007) 12 x Ocean Safety Sport Lifejackets (with lights and integral harness) and safety lines (serviced to April 2008) 3 x fire extinguishers (fully serviced)

Broker's Comments

£45,500 + vat and with only 10 of these ever made and this has to rank amongst the best of them, fully MCA Cat 2 coded with everything needed to race, she does cut extremely swiftly through the water and excellent use of the interior make her very spacious down below. She has just undergone an interior refurb as well as various upgrades etc including a new Pushpit. These boat details are subject to contract. Note: Offers on the asking price may be considered.

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Reflex 38 for sale in Isle of Wight United Kingdom

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The Reflex 38 was conceived as a one-design offshore race boat and commissioned by Sir Robin Knox-Johnson for the race training and corporate hospitality arm of Clipper Ventures. However... this is the only Reflex 38 to have been privately owned and sailed since new, never part of the original Knox-Johnson charter fleet. Built for the 1999 Southampton Boat Show, she was fitted out for short-handed cruising as well as remaining a competitive racing boat. This boat has an enviable racing record winning Warsash Spring series and Class 2 in Cowes in its first year alone. She has many years of successful regatta and club racing and finishing 10th overall in the AZAB in 2019. There are some notable differences, a watertight bulkhead forward, some powered winches and a galley and saloon which is more suited to spending time aboard rather than just getting your head down between watches - but the stylish lines, ease of handling and performance are pure Reflex and she's a joy to step aboard. These boat details are subject to contract. Note: Offers on the asking price may be considered. Register with Boatshed to see 75 extra photos of this Reflex 38 . This Reflex 38 has been personally photographed and viewed by Corinne Gillard of Boatshed IOW.

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Engine Count

Engine Horse Power

Engine Tankage

Max Speed Knots

Propeller Type

Feathering 2 blade

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

Christian Stimpson

Hull Material

NAVIGATION EQUIPMENT

Depth Instrument

Navigation Lights

Speed Instrument

Wind Instrument

ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT

Battery Charger

GENERAL EQUIPMENT

ACCOMMODATION

Harley Raceboats

Cooling System Type

Displacement(kgs)

ABOUT REFLEX 38

The Reflex 38 is 38 feet long and has a 13 feet beam. This 1999 diesel Reflex 38 with 38 horsepower is capable of reaching a maximum speed of 8 knots and a cruising speed of 6. The Reflex 38 is made of fiberglass. This vessel comes equipped with anchor, battery, battery charger, bilge pump, cd player, fenders, spray hood as well as being equipped with autopilot, compass, depth instrument, gps, navigation lights, plotter, radar, speed instrument, wind instrument.

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