ingrid 38 sailboat data

Bluewater Sailboat – Ingrid 38

William Atkin’s Ingrid 38 is a heavy displacement blue water ketch influenced by Colin Archer’s famed double ender designs, which in turn were inspired by Viking boats known for their heavy weather characteristics. Perhaps Atkin’s best description is “the kind of boat that behaves herself in rough water and can be relied on to sail herself.” (In that section, we hear a lot about the excellent one-finger-on-tiller tracking and the comfy ride.)

She has an old world elegance and a sheer line that is evocative of Crealock’s famed Westsail 32. Her large keel, heavy displacement, and overbuilt construction demonstrate her seaworthiness. Her hull is hand laid in fibreglass, and she has strong outboard chainplates and an outboard rudder covered by extra fibreglass and a huge bronze shoe casting in case she scrubs the bottom.

• LOA: 47′ 0″ (including bowsprit and rudder)
• LOD: 37′ 8″
• LWL: 32′ 0″
• Beam: 11′ 4″
• Draft: 5′ 8″
• Sail Area: 816 sq. ft.
• Displacement: 26,000lbs
• Ballast: 8,000lbs
• Head Room: 6′ 0″
• Engine: Volvo MD2B
• Year Introduced: 1971
• Year Ended: 1985
• Designer: William Atkin
• Builder: Blue Water Boats Inc.

Around 1934, American naval architect William Atkin was inundated with requests for a larger ketch-rigged version of his newly announced plans for the Thistle 31, a double-ender. Atkin designed the blueprints for the Ingrid 38 based on Archer’s lines.

The first Bluewater Ingrid 38s were made privately from blueprints in wood, steel, and cement, but it wasn’t until 1971 that manufacturing began in fibreglass by Blue Water Boats Inc. (ironically located in a town called Woodinville in WA). According to legend, the first Ingrid’s plug and mould were created by two Seattle sailors, James Musser and Donald J. Pitblado, while working together in a commercial chicken farm. The original idea for James Musser was to build Ingrid hull #1 and sail across the Pacific Ocean, but others were so fascinated by his Ingrid Sandaldust that they demanded duplicate hulls from the mould. Blue Water Boats Inc. was founded in response to this demand. Donald J. Pitblado, a coworker, went on to become the owner of Ingrid hull #2. Marie Donna

With 1973, the firm accepted Jerry Husted, a veteran Puget Sound sailor, as an equal partner, allowing Musser and his wife to sail away in Sandaldust to pursue their Pacific dream. Husted purchased the remaining shares in 1974, and the manufacture of the Ingrid continued until around 1985, when the moulds and patterns were sold and held for a long time in Graham, WA. Bill Ingerson purchased the moulds in 1997-98 and relocated them to Woodinville in 2000. Ingerson attempted to secure a few hull pledges but received little interest at today’s production costs.

The Bluewater Sailboat Ingrid 38 was built at a rate of one per month for 10-12 years, and there are thought to be 143 of these boats, as well as those made of other materials, still in existence. Many boats were purchased by Blue Water Boats as hull and deck kit sets and finished by their owners to a range of specifications and layouts (including using cutter rigs).

The Alajuela 38 is a variation on the Ingrid 38, with a hull that is a close derivative of the Ingrid, manufactured to a very high level, and outfitted with a cutter rig.

The key difference between Archer’s original design and Atkin’s Ingrid 38 was a better entry on the bow that ‘cushioned’ her landing off the waves. She features a long broad keel with deep v-sections ahead that keep her stable in the rough. The ballast is enclosed and dispersed from bow to stern, allowing her to avoid the pitching motion that fin-keel sailors are accustomed to. To top it all off, there’s enough of float fore and aft to keep her dry.

Performance

The compromise between heavy displacement and ultimate stability is generally speed, and the Ingrid 38 is not quick. Surprisingly, she sails admirably in light weather, with owners stating that she can sail at half the wind speed up to 8 knots of wind. She is, nevertheless, a boat that comes into her own in rougher seas. Her hull speed is 7.2 knots according to the figures, however, she usually cruises at a steady 6 knots. The ketch rig provides plenty of possibilities on all points of sail, and she’s a simple boat to sail solo.

Quick Notes

The Ingrid 38 is no longer manufactured, however, there are generally dozens available on the used boat market, primarily in the United States.

If you are interested in learning more about the specifications and details of a sailboat, we recommend visiting the page Bluewater Sailboat data . This page provides comprehensive information and is an excellent resource for anyone seeking detailed information about 1000+ sailboats.

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I am looking at a Ingrid 38 what do you know

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Dose anybody have any input on a Ingrid 38 She is a nice double ender full keel 26,000 displacment 8,000 balist 11.4 beam Ketch. Please help if you can  

is the displacenent of 26,000 correct? eric  

Ingrids were an Atkins design from the 1930''s. Atkin really understood a lot about the Colin Archer types and had a wonderful ability to model yacht versons based on traditional working craft. The Ingrid is one of my favorite designs. They have been built and sold under all kinds of names and in a wide range of configurations. 26000 lbs sounds about right for one. The big problems with these boats were that they were designed for wooden construction. As it turns out, the wooden hulls were actually lighter than the glass hulls and so many of the glass boats are a little underballasted. The originals were pretty deep as well and so some of the knock offs are a bit shallower adding to this reduced stability. In their original form they had Ketch rigs that are the best of what a ketch rig should be. (Not my favorite rig as it gets interpretted on many boats) Still and all these are really bullet proof go anywhere types of boats. (To me these are what a 38 foot traditional boat should be if they really wanted to live up to their reputation.) Its not that they are perfect boats. They are quite slow by any modern standard. Because of they are double enders, the interior and cockpit are a little small, and they tend to be a little wet. Still in all these are really neat boats if your goal is to really do some long distance voyaging on a traditional low tech boat and you really don''t care when you will arrive. Jeff  

Jwff:The Ingrid is not one of the boats I''ve owned;That said,my father-in-law,who was an excellent shipwright and boat yard owner in Portland,Or. built one in wood,using Port Orford cedar on steam-bent oak frames and copper fastenings.We sailed it up the coast to Victoria B.C. and then left it in Port Townsend for about 5 years using it every time he or I could get away.It was built to spec''s and although under powered by modern expectations it actually sailed quite well,in any direction,except down wind,then the mizn. was blanketed.In wood I would say they were about a 25% better boat than in Glass!  

I''ve been looking at Ingrids myself. Here''s a website with a lot of info about the Ingrids and their sister ship, the Alejuela 38s. The site is run by a guy who''s finishing off an Ingrid hull.... http://hood.hctc.com/~esteve/ ....There''s also a chapter about the Ingrids in Ferenc Mate''s book "Best Boats to Build or Buy" that tells how they are constructed.  

Gene, Copper rivetted cedar on oak, it doesn''t get much better for these boats (except that a friend of mine built a cold molded port orford cedar version in the 1980''s). I think that we are in agreement that the wooden versions were probably better sailors although I suspect that 25% better is probably a bit on the high side. Regards Jeff  

Not so Jeff! When they build them in plastic they always seem to change the run aft and that makes them dogs to sail compared to the real deal!!  

I single handed my Ingrid 38 from Puget Sound to La Paz Mexico. I averaged 6.4 knots over the ground. Mine was an owner finished boat that did the south pacific. The factory finished boats (in my opinion) were designed to sell in the late 70's and 80's. They had to many berths and not enough living space. I used a monitor windvane and a autohelm 2000 for the tiller. The ingrid is not a marina queen and is dificult to get into a slip. You make your turn and then throw it into reverse and walk her around to line up with the slip. I single handed a lot.  

I just acquired a wood Ingrid built somewhere between 1960 and 1980. She is closer to 42ft and I am having a hard time finding out where she was made and by who. Do you know a site that has some sort of history on them? Thanks!  

Seems like a great, nicely updated boat. My PSC34 was about twice the price (and of course about 15 years newer), but not as well equipped or updated. Wish I had had a choice of this Ingrid.  

says the site is not found....  

Have you seen this boat?  

There's currently an Ingrid on CL up in Anacortes. https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bod/d/38-ft-ingrid-38/6275267702.html  

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Thank you Deina. The other Ingrid listed here in Winchester Bay, OR I went to look at. The day I arrived, according to the seller, motor stopped working! So no sea trial.  

FWIW, the Ingrid design was Atckin's best double ended design. The longer length allowed finer bow sections so less hobby horsing and significantly better windward performance than his Eric/Thistle design from which the Westsail 32 originated. The boats are initially tender as are all slack bilged, wind glass form boats. They stiffen up as heel angle increases and most importantly have excellent ultimate stability. How tender the fiberglass hulled Ingrids are or how in relation to the wooden ones is something I'm not familiar with. One thing about the FRP home builts is most used steel as the ballast and it was spread out. Steel doesn't weigh as much as lead so doesn't work as well against heeling and spreading it out increases the tendency to hobby horse because of adding weight closer to the ends. Alajuela attempted to counter the steel ballast issues by using all lead ballast more centrally located as did the later Westsails with cast lead ballast. It's not a case of one is bad and the other good but that lead is better than steel/iron ballast given the choice. Unfortunately you'll have to live with whatever ballast the boat has. We sailed an early W32 with about half lead and half steel ballast. It sailed fine given the limits of the hull design and was faster than most other boats, except going hard on the wind, of it's water line given more than 10 knots of wind and skunked almost all other boats on a beam to a broad reach with the exception of ULDB planing type hulls, in higher winds. The Ingrid is a great Tradewind boat and should sail better to windward than its shorter siblings. It will not be a great light air boat because of its wetted surface but then no full keel boat is without a very high sail area to displacement ratio. Using large light air sails will help but will never overcome a newer boat with deep short keel with a bulb and a very tall stick and large sail area.  

I own a 38 catch I believe that's the same specs unfortunately I have to sell it in the next year I'm looking to find a good home for her  

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